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MInTheGap

Thanks for a very good assessment of the Palin problems with roles in the Bible.

I'm still stewing on this one personally, trying to sort out what I really think about it all, but you've helped me come quite a ways.

I think that our culture has created artificial stages that everyone must pass through-- whether it's the "you have to have college and a job, and then you consider a family" at the beginning of life, or the "this is what you'll do with all your life" concept when you get older.

Times change, and what we do can change as well. It's part of the blessing in a sin-cursed world.

Trillia

Hi Caroline,

This was very helpful. Your analysis and insight is very gracious. I particularly appreciated this point,

"I also recognize that women come with a variety of capacities. Some women have more energy and giftings than others, so what would wipe out one woman is no trouble to another. I hesitate in prescribing to anyone exactly what a mother should do in her individual situation."

We have to be very careful not to judge Palin, or any other woman, based on what they are doing without regard to what might be going on in their heart and family life.

Looking forward to your book!

Blessings,

Trillia

KS

I think that the first word describing Governor Palin in the video shown at the convention was "mother." It's almost a qualification for office now. I realize that most women become mothers and they like to think that someone in office can relate to them, but still ...

Carole

This is an excellent review/commentary on the current times and debate. I have struggled to make sense of my own feelings on the topic - especially since I am one who wants moms to take it easy when they've just had a baby! ("just stay home and enjoy him while he's so tiny!!!" I want to say...)

Anyhow, your assessment that our culture does not value nurturing and child rearing is dead on. I look forward to hearing more of what you have to say about it, it's potential origins and causes.

Sonya

Thank you for this column. It had a lot of insight. I recognize that a mother could also be a good VP or President and that the Bible does not contradict this. I also recognize that Governor Palin is obviously a talented person with excellent time management skills. I do have to wonder about her priorities, however and if this is truly the best season in her life to run for office instead of to pass the opportunity along to another man or woman who also holds firm views, but may not be in such an intensive season where her family really needs her. As the mother of an infant myself, I know that it is a 24 hour job right now. Just speaking for myself, I don't think Governor Palin shares my family values.

Lynne Carey

Thanks for your thoughtful commentary on a complex topic. Although not your primary point, thanks too for the reminder that during this political season we should be using the constant focus on politics as a reminder that we've been called to pray for our leaders (1 Tim. 2:1-4).

Our prayers should be evangelistic: that they will come to a saving knowledge of the truth and that those who know Christ would be strengthened in their knowledge, growing in grace and truth.

At www.capmin.org/about/prayer you can get more information about praying evangelistically for your leaders and also print off prayer calendars including the names of your specific leaders.

It is easy to be critical of politicians, which can quickly slide into slander and disrespect (not in keeping with Romans 13 and 1 Peter 2:17). This commentary models the respect we should all have and reminds us of what we should be doing: praying!

Christina

I've been thinking and thinking about your post. It's very good and it brings up some very interesting points (especially pertaining to childcare).

I am in Japan and I'm a Stay at Home Mother to my only daughter. What's interesting here is the juxtaposition between the Japanese childcare and the American (on-base) childcare.

The Japanese childcare is far better, from friends I've known who have their children in childcare off base. The food provided to the children is made fresh and the children are always well-cared for. Illnesses are rare as the place is kept clean.

The American (on-base) childcare has a horrible reputation (at least here it does). The food provided is often not healthy, the children aren't carefully watched, and illnesses are quite common there. I rarely hear anything good about the American childcare.

Now, the interesting thing is that they both cost about the same, yet the quality of childcare appears to be far better at the Japanese daycare than at the American (on-base) daycare. I wonder why that is? Could it be that the Japanese day care workers aren't simply doing a job because there's nothing out there, but that they are doing it because they really LOVE working with children?

I'm sure in the US there are some daycares out there that provide quality service, but here there is only one American daycare and the quality of service is not that great. Maybe better daycares are more careful in who they choose to hire, instead of just hiring whoever they can.

Just my perspective...

Scott

I appreciate the helpful balance in thinking through this issue. I believe that God may be using this development (the Palin nomination) to help us further clarify our views on biblical womanhood.

A question: does Proverbs 31 speak to a woman's role later in life (after child-rearing)? It seems to me that the portrait here is of a woman who is free to pursue the good of her household (and humanity at large) in many ways. But I don't see any sort of "sequencing" implied in the passage.

Aly

Carolyn,

Thank you for writing a commentary that is nonpartisan and respectful toward all viewpoints. So much political commentary these days--in both public and private circles--is charged with emotion and narrow-mindedness toward any opposing views. I appreciate that you allow reason and God's wisdom to guide your analysis rather than feelings.

Kerry Reid

Carolyn,

I am so glad you wrote about the campaign issues. I visit your blog regularly and was hoping you would post something about Sarah Palin. I knew that it would be a subject that many conservative Christians would be talking about...the role of women, parenting, family values, etc.

I have a unique perspective to offer based on my first-hand experience in government and the political arena. For several years I was involved in my state legislature, working at the state capitol, as a staff member and helping with campaigns.

Fist of all, I have seen first-hand and have come face-to-face with the realities and challenges that Christians face in politics. The average Christian, sitting in church, has no idea what other Christians go through as they fulfill their calling in the political arena. They also do not understand the profound sense of calling that they have. Because it can be so hard, they often feel compelled to serve their country like that. I remember speaking to a friend running for Congress...and he said, "If I die in a terriorst attack in Congress, then that is the sacrifice I make for my country." He is not enrolled in the armed forces, just an ordinary Christian.

Secondly, unless you have been there, it is hard to describe the incredible NEED there is for people of solid character and values to be involved in government. That is why I am excited about Sarah Palin. We can all have different view about women/motherhood, but we CAN agree on the need to have people that represent us in values and character. She was the woman available and ready for the job. We need to be grateful that someone of character stepped up to the plate, no matter if they are man or woman. Take it from someone who has been involved in government....We need more people like Sarah Palin.

As a Constitutional Office, the elected official must be someone who can uphold the Constitution and its values (man or woman). Let's not forget that fundamental purpose. While it is good to be reminded about church leadership and the role of women in that regards, let's not forget that we are talking about "apples and oranges." They are two separate arenas.

I am a woman who loves children, would love to be a stay at home Mom, and pour my life into my children. But I cannot escape the realities of the world around me. I cannot just live my comfortable life at home. God is calling me to make an impact on the broader Kingdom of God -- in whatever capacity, because I can make a difference. As a mother I can make a difference on my children...But I know God wants to use me to the fullest! And I think that is what Sarah Palin is all about!

Kerry Reid

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